Post by Fred HallPost by ::Y-Not::Post by Fred HallCan't spell! However, is this a safe post??
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Your post is as "safe" as that of the regular posters' here, except
that you are using an unreliable and unnecessarily expensive server.
www.easynews.com
www.newscene.com
There are others that are almost as good, with various price plans, but
almost none that are as bad as Newsfeeds.
It's interesting that the Trolls would like you to be unsafe and stop
posting here, thereby removing from their sights the targets they NEED
to attack for them to be Trolls. Well, if they had any useful
intelligence, they wouldn't be Trolls, right? :-)
Oh, stop whining Y Not. You forgot to tell the new poster that you're
a double agent.
Take care,
Y Not
"Question everything."
Why is that?
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Post by ::Y-Not::Just out of curiosity, for whom am I an agent, and for whom am I, well,
another agent?
<shrug>
FBI? Your state AG's office? Both?
What you really mean is that you haven't a clue about anything.
As I expected. :-)
Still, that covers only one of the accused double agent things. What's
the other, and more importantly, how much will they pay me? :-)
Post by Fred HallPost by ::Y-Not::You should keep in mind that I'm retired and don't have a paying job.
What does that have to do with it?
Well, how could I be working for anyone, if I don't have a job?
Post by Fred HallPost by ::Y-Not::Another thing, why does this manufactured "issue" concern you so, that
you have to announce it,
When I first saw that German server post, I didn't think much about
it, other than "Oh, look, someone is spoofing Y Not. Yep, that's
pretty funny." Then, after you vehemently denied it was you, and you
insisted on pointing out why it couldn't have been you, I looked at
that German post a little more closely. I am now 99% sure it was you
that made that post.
I only post with Thoth, on a Mac. The impersonator didn't. End of story.
I have no reason to say what the impersonator did, but if I did, I
would have no reason to post as he did with a PC that I don't have
working, and with software I don't have, and with a news service I
don't need or want to pay for.
There is only one perfect authority on any particular impersonation,
and that is the person who was impersonated. Which in this case, just
happens to be ME. :-)
I'm sorry that this very reasonable logic gets in the way of your
desires, but that's life.
Post by Fred HallWhat was that Shakespeare wrote about protesting too much?
He doth not. :-)
It's my job, that's I've volunteered to do, because few other people do
it. I'm supposed to tell people when someone's impersonated, especially
so, when the impersonator gives bad security advice, as this one did. I
would do the same for any security information provider, and I HAVE.
What, you haven't seen that? :-)
I'm a teacher, therefore I do. I want people to LOOK at the headers of
posts, and understand what all of it means, as part of their basic
Usenet education. An impersonation is a useful teaching aide for that,
because it provides interest and motivation.
That's also the only reason I respond to Troll posts, to use them as a
platform for teaching. Thank you. :-)
Post by Fred HallThe fact of you being a double agent seems to be a real touchy subject
with you. Why is that? I have been forged and frogged many times
over the years, and never once did I behave the way you did.
That's because YOU don't care about other people. I do.
"Touchy" is in your imagination. Your wishful thinking is interfering
with your objective observation. Better leave the shrink things to the
shrinks.
Post by Fred HallPost by ::Y-Not::and for what purpose are you doing it?
Too point out your hypocrisy in claiming to help and protect the boy
lovers, while at the same time setting them up to be busted.
I post technical, social and psychological things that can aid ANYONE
who reads my posts. I occasionally do the same in some software
newsgroups too.
However, I DO work to specifically protect children who post in these
groups, whom you Trolls actually attack, by the way.
Since I'm here to counsel the BLs, I WANT them to be here. For this,
they need to post safely. Just like you, I would be quite bored if I
didn't have my victims :-)
Someone, such as yourself, who lies and bullies and promotes violence
and hate, and mostly hasn't a clue about what he reads, is not fit to
judge the possible hypocrisy of others. "<troll mode off>" isn't
possible with you.
Post by Fred HallYour biggest problem, and ultimately your downfall, Y Not, is your
arrogance.
I have no downfall or upfall. Such a concept has no relevance to what I
do here, which I've been doing ever since Tommy founded this newsgroup.
Insecure and arrogant people may see my posts, with the way I write
them, as "arrogant". Others don't. I write as a professor, who has
created this way of writing to enable people from different cultures,
and who have different abilities with English, to better understand my
communications, and to work will less errors with translation programs.
Arrogant, selfish, ignorant and uncaring people don't understand or
accept that. Those who communicate with me privately, know I'm quite a
nice and funny person. More about that later.
Post by Fred HallMany of the trolls who post here are technically savvy,
and the same is probably true of many of the boy lovers. No, not
probably, many of them are tech savvy, otherwise they'd be behind
bars.
Yes and no. Many of the most "technically savvy" here, are also the
most foolish with what they reveal about themselves, no matter how
often I warn them about that. :-/
If the Law actually wanted them, they would be long gone. If I can
identify and locate them just from what they write in their posts, so
can others. After all, I'm not the world's foremost expert in that sort
of thing.
Post by Fred HallSo when you *talk down* to those that are tech savvy, you lose
all credibility with both trolls and boy lovers. You have become a
joke, preaching your ineffective safety methods. Your advice to
specinrey is one example. Your advice to [I don't recall his name]
about Yahoo chat rooms is another example. Why do you give such poor
advice, unless you are working with the feds/state/local LE?
I didn't say anything about any chat rooms, Yahoo or otherwise. I've
never even visited any.
One thing that's critically important with someone who is offering
security help, is the ability to read, and a passion for accuracy. You
evidently have neither.
You have no credibility by complaining about something that never
happened. Better stick to just stupidly insulting people. :-)
As for poor advice, well, has it been corrected? If I ever did give
poor advice, it would be corrected and wouldn't cause any harm. So,
your contention that I would do that to harm people, can't be correct.
By the way, have you ever heard of Yahoo groups? :-)
Post by Fred HallPost by ::Y-Not::In my speculations on what you may mean by this, I'm unable to see what
you would gain by saying this in a so unspecified way, and even if you
become more specific in your claim, your statement about it would seem
to be in opposition to your expressed personal position. It doesn't
make sense. If you can make yourself stop shooting yourself in the foot
(and proving what I said about Trolls), long enough to explain this to
me, I would appreciate it.
As a courtesy to you, I hope my explanation was satisfactory.
Well, it was mildly interesting. You could have done better.
Post by Fred Hall<troll mode on>
Heh. Tony.
The difficulty with your accusations regarding me, is that they just
don't match the reality that is easily observable. Just as the one that
I'm a pedophile, is not true, as even you Trolls should know. The
people here know I'm not. Accusations without any shred of proof are
just noise, and reasoning people won't believe them, and unreasoning
people will just believe whatever makes them feel better.
The regulars here know who is "technically savvy" (you said they were
here) and who may not be, because they have been demonstrating that for
years. Your noises won't change that. Those who are more "technically
savvy" than myself, have the option to correct my advice, and even post
their own to help people. Do they? I wish they did! With the few times
they have corrected me, and thought they were right, subsequent events
proved them wrong. This rep is hard to beat! :-)
I am more effective when I'm opposed. People are drawn to a fight, and
they pay more attention to what is said in them. This gives me much
more attentive students than I could ever have otherwise. You Trolls,
and the antagonistic BLs, do that very well for me. Thanks!
I don't think you like it that you actually help me, but I also think
you can't stop acting as if you are causing me, and the groups
problems, because you NEED to be a bully, and need to believe you are
succeeding in terrorizing people, even though it's obvious that you are
just viewed as stupid clowns, and are actually helping me with my work,
by making it more noticeable. You have to deny reality to justify to
yourself what you do. It's your ridiculous rationalizations for this,
that make you look so stupid, not to mention your very limited
vocabulary.
There is one more thing that blows your argument out of the water. If I
wanted anyone here to be in prison, why, after all these years, aren't
they all put away? I know who some of them are in real life, and they
know it, and some of them view me as their enemy and have attacked me
in the groups, quite viciously. If I wanted them gone, wouldn't they be
the first to go? Yet they are still here. I want them to be here, so I
can counsel them. :-)
Even my most vicious enemies TRUST me not to harm them.
I am here to help protect children. Helping BLs understand themselves,
and learn to choose not to harm children, is part of that mission. For
this, I need them to be here reading my posts. And so they are!
Many of the regular posters here are in private communication with me,
and have been for years. Some even know who I am in real life. They
KNOW exactly why I'm here, know I never lie, and know they are in no
danger from me. Well, except when my sense of humor gives them a
headache. :-)
They know what's true, and no amount of noise can change that.
By the way, you couldn't get the BLs to like me better if you tried.
The more you attack me, the more they will respect me.
Thank you! :-)
Y Not
PS.
If you think this post is too long or difficult to understand, please
check out the adult remedial reading programs in your area. I mention
this, because some, especially Trolls have made such complaints, and
this saves me a reply to advise this.
"Some things are not as they seem.
Some are.
Which is worse?"